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  1.  
    One look at the Discography at the back will tell you not much research has went into that part of it or
    should I say the solo parts of Wire,s members career output. Still reading it, so cannot comment on the whole book.
    Personally, would like somebody to come out with a book documenting each member of Wire,s solo career in detail.
    Don,t think this will happen.
    But Would really love somebody to take it on.
  2.  
    Having read Lowdown – here’s a few thoughts.

    I started reading it straight after finishing “33 1/3 Pink Flag”, so the first part I found quite ‘dull’, especially as Wilson Neate had covered it in much more detail. After that, when covering the Chairs Missing & 154 it became more involving & though maybe not learning anything new, it was certainly interesting with quotes from the band & Mike Thorne. At this point I became quite concerned as I was over half-way through the book & there was still nearly 30 years of Wire’s career (& solo projects) to cover!

    After finishing the book, it's clearly obvious that Lester had skimmed through the next 30 years, which was a great pity as Wire Mk2 was my fave period & I know little more now about their solo careers than I did previously. Personally i'd like to have know more about Colin's work with Swim, Post Everything & Pink Flag (the label) & also a little more about the band personally - apart from passing mentions about Colin's marraige & where he was living, there was nowt of a personal nature. Now that maybe by the band's request, which is fair enough, but i'd've liked a wee bit more.

    Overall a fairly interesting read, although reading the comments on the newsletter we don't know what's true or misleading. I just wish i'd read the newsletter b4 the book! If I'd've known Lester was gonna concentrate on the 1st 3 lp's, i wouldn't've bothered - especially after reading the 33 1/3 book which gave much more of an insight into Wire & how they work.

    Oh well, i guess i'll have to continue my search for a (reasonably priced) copy of Everybody Loves A History!!!!
  3.  
    Lowdown is a real disappointment. Totally agree with garage band, the book manages to rush though 30 years in nearly as few pages. My favourite typo is the caption to the Ex Lion Tamers who are evidently playing Pink Flag in 1976. So now we know, Wire stole their career from their own tribute band. How Paul Morley. Wilson Neate's book is just excellent, although I'm at the age where a large print version would be useful.
  4.  
    "Ex Lion Tamers who are evidently playing Pink Flag in 1976. So now we know, Wire stole their career from their own tribute band."

    Careful - before you know it, Wikipedia will use this as a citation about that being TRUE FACT, and the internet will explode.
  5.  
    Well, based on the above early reviews, I've canceled my order for Lester's book. Not the easiest choice being an obsessive and completist, but if it really doesn't add much value, especially post-Manscape, I can find something else to spend my money on.
  6.  
    The first part of lowdown was enjoyable but from 1980 onwards it felt like a rush to the finishing line. I would have liked more insight into the band members personal lives. These don't have to be too invasive. For instance I for one don't know how many children they have. Colin has a son, but he didn't warrant a namecheck. Little things like that aren't a huge invasion of privacy, but they do help to give the reader an insight into how the band functions. More info on the band's fallouts5 with managers would have been good too. And a few tales about life on the road would hAve been interesting. The list of letdowns in lowdown are too numerous to mention. 7 out 10 for the first part of the book and 2/10 for last 29 years.
  7.  
    too late for me, i've already ordered my copy. should be arriving today or tomorrow.
    judging from the comments it looks like it's not going to be anything new, especially considering i have Kevin's book that covers quite well the period until "Wir".
  8.  
    Must say, Lowdown sounds a fearful bag of cobblers.

    Bit of a pointless exercise by the sounds of it too. With the best will in the world, a book about Wire is never going to challenge Jordan's latest effort or the Da Vinci Code at the top of the best sellers list. And we've already had an exhaustive, thoroughly well researched and splendidly written tome on the band in the shape of Everybody Loves A History (which I'm pleased to say I still possess, given its current scarcity).

    Can't see why there have been a few comments on here bemoaning the fact there's not a definitive book on Wire - ELAH is pretty damn faultless as far as I can see (apart from the fact that it's now about 18 years out of date, I grant you).
  9.  
    agree. and also the chapters on the solo careers are quite good in ELAH. so an update of Kevin's book would have been the best thing IMO.
    i just got the letdown (pardon, the lowdown) and have read Johnny Marr's introduction. right now talks about "a bell is cup..until it's a jar" (?). reminds me of that guy that kept on shouting "kidney bongos on the run" at the Hamburg gig.
    Kidney bongos on the run, the single taken from a bell is a cup until it's a jar...
  10.  
    Dr Up says "With the best will in the world, a book about Wire is never going to challenge Jordan's latest effort or the Da Vinci Code"

    Even less so now if Wire fans are cancelling orders, and the band themselves have given it a clear thumbs down. I think I'll wait and see if it turns up in Fopp for £3 in a few months.

    You know, if we were a more enterprising lot we could write "the book" ourselves. I daresay among the alumni of this forum and the Ideal Copy List there is enough collective knowledge and insight to write a fab 'Wire Encyclopaedia' type of book. I don't think there is a great untold story that requires a Biography, but a nice collection gig reviews, history, setlists, facts and figures, contemporary clippings, posters etc would be good, a bit like the Rob Gretton book that came out recently. The recollections of Mr Bursa alone would fill a few volumes. Anyone work in publishing?!
  11.  
    I've practically finished Lowdown now. There are some hugely irritating errors in there, the writing is poor (the overused Q&A transcription for one) and the repetition of quotes and facts a pain.

    I was, after reading the Wire statement, willing to feel a little sympathy for the author if the publishers were on his back with unrealistic deadlines etc, but it felt in parts to be being written by somebody whose knowledge had been gleaned not from the study of his subject but from the clippings he'd read. Very disappointing.

    And "...says Graham Lewis offering the by now predictable assessment of a Wire recording session" also smacks of a writer tiring of his subject matter.

    Also, Colin's perspective seems to be notable by its absence in the latter sections. Possibly not the author's fault...?

    I have the 33 1/3 book to go at yet. Looking forward to that!
    • CommentAuthorAri says...
    • (CommentTimeMay 26th 2009 edited)
     
    I pre ordered my copy from deepdiscount.com, I took a look a week or so back to see if there was a delivery update, my 'order' wasn't there and so I did a search, they're not even listing it now, ah well, just as well from what I read on the forum, the forums opinions are more informed and more entertaining.
    • CommentAuthorAri says...
    • (CommentTimeMay 31st 2009 edited)
     
    Rereading Wilsons' P.F I observed:
    (I think) There are two things I think that's incorrect and, not having owned the album for some 20 years (yes yes, I have the c.d's ) I can't check.
    In his book W.N says ,0n page 57, '... reduced all bio info to names, roles and single,generic -characteristics:Robert-height,Graham-weight,Bruce-eye color and Colin-hair color. on both copies of P.F c.d I have Grahams' 'characteristic' is 'Bass', is the Vinyl different?
    Wilson adds......-these traits weren't discernible in the photo's, except perhaps Grey's lanky frame!! eh what?
  12.  
    Just to answer a few of the above -

    Ian B - no I am not absent from the latter part of the "Lowdown" book by my own choice! We didn't want to come down too hard on Paul Lester because we personally liked him and he did succeed to get Johnny Marr to give an intro BUT in the end it's his failure to ask anyone who actually knows to check his facts that has made the book so irritatingly inaccurate.

    R Swimmer - Have been having similar thoughts myself having heard about a guy who wrote a book on green energy cost/options in wikki format, having a bunch of others edit & revise it then actually having the thing paper published & on best seller lists! However let's get the "official bootleg" series started before we move onto the next "fan curated" project.

    Dr Up (and others) - The lack of editorial choices in the Eden book have made it less popular with at least half the band than any other of the "wire" books. "wire in their own words" will be an entirely different story on each occasion depending on what you ask to who & in what circumstance. There are competing narratives and that makes for a more complex story but in my view that's a more interesting story..
  13.  
    Colin has a son you say?

    On a peronsal note,
    Bruce has a sun and Graham has a brood of doubters...

    From the erroneous prehistory
    "Cancel Your Order"
  14.  
    Colin - just to clarify: are you saying that certain members of the band don't like ELAH because they feel they've been misinterpreted or not given a fair hearing? Must say, I thought it was pretty even handed in its treatment, with everyone given the chance to put across their own point of view in their own individual chapters. But then, I'm not in the band...
  15.  
    ..and I've got a dog that climbs trees
  16.  
    On the subject of books, has anyone else read Isabelle Corbisier's "Music for Vagabonds: The Tuxedomoon Chronicles"? Not that it has anything to do with Wire (aside from Crammed connections like Gilles Martin, Luc van Lieshout, etc). But it is a good read about a band probably more obscure than Wire, that contains fairly frank interviews with almost all involved about the personal differences within the group, bothers to delve into the tangle of other projects involving various members, includes a resonable discography and gigography, and whets the appetite for future projects

    The further relevance to some of the above discussion is that it's essentially self-published - I understand that copies are printed on demand by the printer - and looks every bit as good as anything produced by a mainstream publisher.
  17.  
    The thing that annoyed me most about the book was the LP references, like Wire's (first LP) Pink Flag, like anyone who was reading the thing wouldn't know that Pink Flag was their first LP. Happened more than once for each LP too.
    Crazy!
  18.  
    ELAH:

    Graham told me he wished he'd made more effort to be helpful when Kevin interviewed him, but it doesn't really come over like that when you read the book. Plenty of information there, and Bruce gave some good one liners!