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    Pieta, La Piccola

    Take the trabant to Brabant
    I always rather enjoyed Graham's look at America in Follow The Locust. "The gambling museum" sums things up quite nicely.

    That said, others are obviously more qualified to comment on the British- or European-ness of Wire, though I'll say this much: Ahead is, for me, a train song. Something about the rhythm and the little idiosyncratic percussive variations suggests locomotive-type locomotion to me.

    It sounded so much cooler when I was taking the train across the Netherlands than lurching along on Amtrak.
    Everything seems to sound good on a train journey with yr headphones on*
    I recommend the Cambrian Coast Line from Shrewsbury to Porthmadog for a meandering, often mind boggling, and ever-changing landscape to accompany yr sounds (and the lovely Cob Records shop at the end of the journey)

    (*except when there are bunch of ignorant c**ts near you playing 50 Cent on a tinny mobile phone speaker so loud you can hear it over your headphones. Is this just a British thing?)
    "except when there are bunch of ignorant c**ts near you playing 50 Cent on a tinny mobile phone speaker so loud you can hear it over your headphones. Is this just a British thing?"

    I'm sad to report that yes, this one appears on the other side of the Atlantic as well. Or worse: you can hear it coming from their crap headphones.

    Any investment I make in the near future will most certainly be in the IPO of the company that makes a revolutionary new hearing aid. We're gonna need a lot of these in the not-too-distant future the way kids torture their ears these days...
    I have no pension.
    There will be much bigger problems to worry about when I'm 64 due to climate change
    Keep up the ear bashing I say!
    That's Entertainment

    I feel that "The Gambling Museum" rather sums up the entire pathetic state of Western civilization as it collapses into a black hole of greed fueled impotency. It spread like a cancer and took the the whole damn planet with it...


    "ignorant cunts.....just a british thing?" nah, it's everywhere., esp if you take public transportation. also if you happen to live next door to someone who turns their house and/ or car into a massive boom box. i don't know if you have this in england, but
    my neighbor, a bodybuilder who looks like the incredible hulk from all the steroids he's taken, drives around in a big ass ford explorer (kinda like an m-1 tank without the gun turret) and blasts all his favorite latino music at full volume. the effect is more like a shock wave rather than musical enjoyment. but i guess he digs it.

    also i'm a contractor (my specialty is faux finishes) so i meet all kinds of people and get turn on to all kinds of music. i'm currently renovating a loft in lower manhattan which functions as a book bindery and studio for my british client and his american wife. on his ipod dock today he had one part british folk (bright eyes meets donovan?), a lot of stuff by the cure,
    and the rest was american hip-hop and rap. funny as hell to see a white englishman sing along to a brooklyn rapper whose
    song "black cowboy' (i think) has lyrics that go like this: " i not your average nigga, no i'm not your average nigga, girlfriend i'm not your average nigga........." !!!


    (gavin is hardly ignorant, though. he does beautiful hand bound books and leather boxes.)
    He must love the music or he wouldn't have to play it loud.
    I find listening to loud music something entirley necessary to function normally.

    OK it is not as necessary as food, water and air, but life without loud music is desperately drab.
    oh, yeah he loves the music! but why should everyone else have to be subjected to his boombox on wheels? don't people who
    prefer peace and quiet have a right to that as well? it's all about respecting others as well.

    "good manners are the lubrication of a civilized society".

    agreed music is a necessity. perhaps not 96 decibels plus all the time. and visual art. (it's a right brain thing!)
    I like loud music, but i prefer my choice rather than listening to someone elses thru the walls. Plus my neighbours don't dig wire, autechre or fennesz so its headphones for me, and plenty of gigs to exercise my ears. I need a good dose of peace and quiet too and i'm lucky to live somewhere with plenty of it..
    I oft get woken up late at night by kidz going home after a late night at the bar or club, (which close here at 2:00 a.m I think),their bass 'shakin' the building' plus I live on a trailer park right next to the railroad track, so slumbering in the afternoon is a no no.
    ahhhhh peace and quiet, where art thou?
    If you want good manners then have good manners yourself. My neighbours have assaulted me, slandered me, tried and failed to intimidate me, are racist idiots and moral hypocrites and drug addled buffoons. As such I'm not really bothered if I upset them by listening to music.
    We seem to have strayed slightly from the path here - the thread is actually about which bands/singers we thought might have been influenced by Wire - anyone care to step back on the pathway and get the thread back to where it should be?
    Okay, how about Echo and the Bunnymen?

    Big chunks of 'Heaven Up Here' could have been lifted directly from '154'
    I don't really see that but HUH is my favourite Bunnymen album overall.
    Must admit that I can't personally see any sign of a 154 influence on the Bunneymen's 'Heaven Up Here'
    To be fair, it's been a while since I listened to Heaven Up Here - don't get me wrong, I think the Bunnymen are great - I just heard 'A Touching Display' and think that the roaring distortion effect is very similar to a lot of what the Bunnymen were doing around about that time. But debate is what this forum is all about: I'm off to listen to 'HUH' again and maybe I'll come back eating a huge portion of humble pie.........
    possibly Suicide, though i think they may actually predate Wire. interesting that they are both coming from different places, yet
    both have similar, stripped down, minimalist sound.

    i would also say that the new york no wave bands from 78 to 81 were somewhat influence by Wire, but it's to hard say exactly
    how much. the Contortions, Mars, and DNA were hardly conventional rock bands, or even punk bands for that matter, but
    they all shared a penchant for the experimental often incorporating elements of jazz, funk, disco and noise. Teenage Jesus could almost be a freaked out american version of Wire: loud, short sets, minimal lyrics, aggressive, abrasive sound.
    Haven't listened to any of their stuff in ages, but I think Interpol sometimes have a Wire(ish) sound to them, especially some of their earlier stuff. I'll have to dig out a few discs and remind myself of what I'm talking about! :)
    Interpol more influenced by The Chameleons, Bunnymen and Joy Division than Wire I think.
    Chinese Proms by The Orphin sounds not unlike a cross between early Devo and Chairs Missing era Wire.

    Staff's track Metal has that grinding, almost stop/start Pink Flag-era rhythm that Elastica proved so fond of, and a melody not a million miles away from Strange.

    I know they're not a favourite with some folks here but I think The Young Knives have a bit of a Wire influence going down on their debut album.

    Instant Camera though more influenced by The Damned, had one track Terrorvision on their rather good Alive On Departure LP whch had a great bassline that wouldn’t sound out of place on Pink Flag.