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  1.  
    I know it seems daft to be thinking ahead to the next record but I'm not the only one. At the Q&A session at Wire:Drill, Colin mentioned that he's already wondering about how Wire can follow Change Becomes Us.

    Our own Mark Bursa is credited in the CBU book as having planted a seed in Colin's mind about re-recording the D&E era tracks back when Wire first recycled 'Ally in Exile' at the Edinburgh gig in 2000.

    So, offer your suggestions here! Maybe you'll re-invent their 3rd wheel.

    My suggestions:

    1. Get weirder and more experimental. maybe using more of the electronic stuff Graham does, more input from Matt, Robert is seen playing a guitar on the CBU book so how about a track where Rob plays the guitar and Colin plays drums etc,
    2. Get the Pink Flag Orchestra in for a session and record some tracks with 30 guitarists on!
    3. Make a few more spacey, sparse tracks - the last four have been very dense and layered (in a good way but would be interested to hear more 'air' in the mix.)


    Also just for fun, some suggestions of what they definitely shouldn't do:

    1. Covers album
    2. Eponymous LP
    3. Eno Collaboration
    4. Acoustic 'Wire Unplugged'' album.
  2.  
    Congratulations R Swimmer - the debate is over as you have already substantiated Wire's output leading up to retirement! Wire are always toying with and confounding people's expectations - so the four suggestions that "they definitely shouldn't do" - given Wire's character it would be fitting to do the very projects that they shouldn't - so - those four should take up the next ten years.....
  3.  
    Now - what covers should Wire attempt? They've done "After Midnight" and "Glad All Over" WAY back in the past.....
  4.  
    That's a great question for Colin to be pondering.

    For me after 3-4 albums of very meticulously crafted and densely layered LP's I think this current incarnation of Wire is tight enough as a unit to cut a "Live-in-Studio" LP ala Pink Flag where it's just the sound of a band playing together in a room with no overdubs. Stylistically I don't want to see the band re-visit that sound again but I would like to see them re-use that approach.
  5.  
    One thing we all know for sure is that Wire will do whatever they will irrespective of fan wish lists, suggestions and fantasies. Sorry to put dampener on this thread but it's about as good as trying to guess when the sun goes super nova.
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    "Pink Flag where it's just the sound of a band playing together in a room with no overdubs"

    I know what you're getting at, but Pink Flag was full of overdubs!
  7.  
    According to Colin, the "very loose plan" is to follow up Change Becomes Us with a Read & Burn 4 depending on how busy this latest release makes them.*

    I'd like some kind of release based around Drill:London,maybe a limited edition item in some form. Something that's a natural progression from the festivals success.

    *http://www.stompandstammer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5256&Itemid=1
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    I was thinking the same thing as R Swimmer on listening to this excellent record, as much of the structure was already in place, they hit the ground running. How will they trump that ? How will they start from scratch next time ?

    Structure is the keyword here, as structurally the songs are very strong, each one with a clear beginning middle and end, with interesting shifts and swerves. In editing terms that’s a winner; reaching a point, as Colin has said in interviews, where nothing remains to add or remove. That’s when you know it’s finished.

    Structure also in relation to continuity between songs and the overall dynamic curve of the album. The curve of CBU is water-tight, rock solid - the dynamic shifts have been very carefully chosen - I don’t lose interest for a second.

    I would love to see them continue and further develop the song structure approaches of CBU, and take risks. A bit more Eels Sang type absurdity would be great. The sheer demented fuck off-ness of that song is immensely appealing. Graham’s vocals are perfect for it. I love Rob’s start/stop disco beat.

    Some sparse tracks with more breathing room definitely a good thing, with subtle production details. Simple question as opening gambit for compositional strategy: Do all instruments need to be playing all the time ? CBU strikes a really good balance that way on some songs - the change of emphasis keeps things interesting.

    There’s a bit more inventiveness in Rob’s drumming, reminding me somewhat of his approach circa 85/6. What’s interesting about the variation in song times is they feel as long as they need to be: Keep Exhaling is short enough to act like an interlude between the first and third tracks, but it’s very complete, to my mind.

    I like the way Black And White Silence segues into Time Lock Fog. And some other songs are relatively long by Wire standards. But they work. They have a chance to breathe. When I first heard & Much Besides I thought it might be an instrumental, the intro was so long. Why not pepper the songs with the odd instrumental ? Wasn’t the long lost Zoom an instrumental ?

    I would love to hear more of Graham on vocals. Perhaps a bit more vocal interplay between Colin and Graham, along the lines of Craftsman’s Touch. Hell, why not another acapella number like Up To The Sun ? Experimental and electronic elements - great, but probably hard to strike a good balance in terms of retaining overall cohesiveness.

    I would join in the chorus of disapproval about the chorus on the vocals though, as I think it does nothing for the already strong vocals, except attract attention to itself. Both Colin & Graham have very distinct, clear, strong and appealing vocal styles that compliment each other. They are an inescapable part of Wire’s sonic signature. Why ladle on a syrupy thick sweetener on them ? Wire being Wire, they will please themselves of course. “And the chorus goes...” Yes, I wish it would - for good ! I can imagine Paul Whitehouse and Harry Enfield shouting: “Oi ! Colin ! No !!!”
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    "One thing we all know for sure is that Wire will do whatever they will irrespective of fan wish lists, suggestions and fantasies."

    I don't know if I agree with that sentiment with post-Bruce Gilbert Wire. We've come a long way since the Send days of only playing new material.

    I would also argue that CBU would've never happened if there wasn't such a high level of fan interest in the "lost" 4th album,
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    They could really throw a spanner in the works and do what was expected, except after years of not doing, no body has any expectations.
  11.  
    @kevin true but I thought it would be fun to speculate, and after all CBU was partly inspired by a suggestion from a Wire fan so who's to say we won't come up with some ideas that will spark something for the future.
  12.  
    Whatever path they take next I hope they get an outside producer into the mixing process to add another dimension to the songs. Maybe have a re-mix version of their next release made available?
  13.  
    Not sure an outside producer is necessary, an extra pair of ears often helps.. If that happened, I'd go for Gareth Jones.
  14.  
    Re-make the George Gill-era material in the same manner as Change Becomes Us and title the album "Inventing The Square Wheel"
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    leefact25 said "Now - what covers should Wire attempt? They've done "After Midnight" and "Glad All Over" WAY back in the past..... "

    I'm reading a book on Brazil at the moment (Futebol: The Brazilian Way Of Life) and it claims the track Brazil from PF is in fact a cover version of a samba song by Ary Barroso????? I'm totally puzzled as they sound nothing like each other and the lyrics are totally different.
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    My vote is for weirder and more experimental, a bit more abstract, though possibly for some Wire is already a touch too abstract. I'd also love to hear background female vocals, a wonky horn section, more abrasive guitars, random sounds whether natural or man-made. a copy machine perhaps. Something along the lines of Attractive Space, but a longer extended version.

    I would also be totally in favor of a covers album. St Steven by the Grateful Dead would be right up Wire's alley. What Goes On
    or Ocean by the Velvet Underground. Moonage Daydream by Bowie. God by John Lennon. the possibilities are endless.

    Why not a mid career retrospective starting with Send to CBU? The B List? With the internet it would be pretty easy to do a survey and vote on selections.
  17.  
    Also complete book of Lyrics to date , preferably illustrated.
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    "I'm reading a book on Brazil at the moment (Futebol: The Brazilian Way Of Life) and it claims the track Brazil from PF is in fact a cover version of a samba song by Ary Barroso????? I'm totally puzzled as they sound nothing like each other and the lyrics are totally different."

    What!!!

    Utter bollocks!! It was only called Brazil because it had a bit of a cha-cha-cha rhythm. The title was meant to be funny. I have no idea who Ary Barroso is but for sure we didn't cover his song!

    For the next thing, I'm feeling something different. All your suggestions will be taken on board (and ignored :)

    c.
  19.  
    "For the next thing, I'm feeling something different"

    Is there a timescale attached to these plans, Colin? Or does it all depend on your live commitments and CBU promotional activities over the coming year?
  20.  
    something different ? what about a prog-rock album ? :-)