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    Well at least they're not inflating the price
    Went to 3 Record Stores today (on a Saturday afternoon - peak Record shopping time) and I was the only patron in all 3 stores. Looks like RSD is really bringing the warm bodies to the record stores!
    @stevethehouse you're determined to pour scorn on RSD and we will have to agree to disagree I think.

    Its not just about giving Record Shops an extra boost for one day, it's about the, gradual cumulative effect of reconnecting people with record shops and raising their profile longer term. There are things I don't like about it, but to be honest the fact that you have three record shops you can get to in a day might be partly due to the efforts of RSD to promote them.
    I usually go to our local record store every Saturday to see whats new in. But did not go this week as I spent a lot of cash last weekend at RSD. Maybe thats why the records shops were empty this weekend??
    Record Store Day in a nutshell:
    this is more like "some people are crazy in a nutshell"
    Woh. I know it's a one-off that record, but that's waay over the odds. Mega rare Beatles items go for much less than that.

    The other side of that coin is some of the more, shall we say, optimistic releases. Those Aerosmith reissues are positively nailed to the shelves.
    I just played my CBU vinyl, sounds a bit distorted to me. I had a similar problem with the RBT vinyl too, i never did get a decent copy of that. Anyone else with similar issues?
    Actually forget that, i played it on another player and its fine. My RBT was definitely knackered though!
    I know this may sound contentious but why would anyone want to spend their well earned money buying music on a format that if it doesn't from the start, at some point, will click, pop, crackle and possibly jump.
    I don't care how heavy the vinyl is or how well pressed I will never be convinced that vinyl is a good way to listen to any music.
    I grew up with vinyl. We didn't know anything else. (except cassette, and don't get me started on that) so when CD came only it was like listening with your ears syringed! Pure music.
    I do have a deck. In a box in my loft. Some time ago I brought it down, unpacked it and set it up for the sole purpose of tansfering an LP to CDR.
    I cleaned to vinyl with the cloth I had bought specifically and placed the needle on the run in groove. That 'thud' sent a shiver through me. Horrible. Then the music started. Then pop, click.... urgh. I couldn't wait to get the experience over and pack the deck away.
    As I say at the top I will never be convinced that vinyl is a good way to listen to any music.
    I was quite happy with the CD as my format of choice. I think the 'back to Vinyl' movement is well intentioned and seeks to preserve the physical aspect of selecting and listening to music (as well as promoting the act of paying for what you listen to rather than taking it for free) , and has done a lot to keep Record Shops afloat, but they were rather too quick to trample over CD. Efforts would have been better made to present the CD in a more desirable way, and indeed the norm now (a little late in the day) is to use nice gatefold cards or facsimile Vinyl style sleeves rather than the tacky plastic jewell case.

    I don't mind the odd bit of vinyl as an object to enjoy and collect, and onviously they look nice, but I prefer the clean sound of CD or even a high bit rate MP3. I can appreciate that if you play music on a rotary device, with a motor going and the natural hiss and static it generates it will have a certain character that people like and get nostalgic about, and that it will perhaps tone down the unforgiving harshness of a digital format....although if you learn how to use a graphic equaliser you can tune any music your taste regardless of the source.

    We were sold a myth with CD (perfect sound forever?) but the exhalted staus of Vinyl is just as much a myth and whle I love looking at the sleeve art, I don't pine for the pops, skips and crackles. I think for a lot of people it's more about the ritual of the thing, taking your time over music rather than having iTunes on shuffle. Vinyl is an intervention into the nanosecond attention span of daily life etc. personally I don't worry about such things, its about the music and not what it's playing on.
    I will ALWAYS bite on a vinyl versus the rest thread! As a Wire completist I've Wire on record, on CD, on cassette, in print - (I'm still hunting down the 8 track....)

    I think vinyl is about the big package, the twelve inch slab of art- something to lay back in the easy chair and SAVOUR. The idea of the download generation is all well and good - the shuffle and the music mix, but i think something is missing. I don't want to over-sell the idea that "music artists" control the packaging and the "order of the music" in a vinyl artifact (beacuse of course in many cases the producer does it all, and the musicians contribution is minimal and accidental) but still the vinyl LP has serious ritual.

    For a well crafted artifact - the ritual of turning it over after the end of side one- the disclipine of the musicians pacing the music (two lots of 15 to 25 minutes on each side) - and again the large artistic canvas of the cover art..... Pink Flag is a good example of all of this.

    None of that happens with a shuffle and I think the artistic result is diminished. I know there is a degree of "fetish of the object" involved here, and there is also the imperative of the collector of STUFFf - a thing which is increasingly lost in the digital age.

    The funny thing is that an entrerprise like Wire would seem to be much more prone tpo fetishisation of the object ("Object 47"!!!) I'm of the age where I still value that fetish. Having said that I look at my 175+ Wire atifacts and I think it's a bit sad because pretty much no one here (in Australia) has any idea what I'm enthusiatic about- so completism is a pretty solitary pursuit.
    One thing I didnt talk about was downloading and the shuffle and play ideology. Don't start me off...
    Very interesting discourse.
    I remember avidly listening to my parents' vinyl collection when I first started seriously getting into music, back in the early 70s. 7-inch singles, all without sleeves, were stored in a black hold-all. I recall at family gatherings the cry would go up: 'get out the black bag!' Needless to say, the sonic quality of such items left something to be desired - and yet: the music was still fantastic! LPs weren't much better: I learned to love a version of The Beatles' 'Good Day Sunshine' which always skipped over most of the piano solo because the vinyl was so scratched. When I finally heard a 'proper' recording of the song, something seemed to be missing..
    Many of us (oldies) will have loads of similar, dewy-eyed reminiscences, I'm sure.

    The digital version of a mixtape, the burned compilation CD, is one big source of pleasure to me: the notion of making up a personal 'best of', where you act as curator, over a limited time-frame. However, I think it was David Thomas who has poured eloquent scorn over such things. How dare the fan decide which order tracks should be played?! It's tantamount to sacrilege to mess around with an intended artistic statement by reordering tracks!
    Now you're adding a whole other strand. To mix tape/CD or not to.
    The big problem for me with digital is mixing, rather than format. So much music these days is compressed to within an inch of its life that it make it tiring to listen to music over extended periods. I think a lot of the warmth people ascribe to vinyl in a nostalgic sense is actually to do with less SMASH IT INTO YOUR EARS mixing.

    From a format standpoint, though, I love digital. I almost never play anything else these days, purely because all my music's to hand. Even in the living room, we now pull all our music through our Apple TV to the amp, rather than bother getting CDs off the shelf. However, although I sometimes use shuffle when I'm working, evening listening is usually either album-based or playlist-based, with playlists most often comprising an artist's albums in order. It's also interesting that iTunes has made efforts to push the idea of listening to albums again—but then Steve Jobs was a big fan of that item, and his thinking is infused into an awful lot of what Apple still does.
    How we all listen to music and in what manner we listen ( I.e. Album by album, or shuffle mode) is an entirely personal one and who am I to cast aspersions on how anyone should organise their listening patterns. My criticism was purely down to me choosing how to spend money on something that WILL click, pop and scratch over a format I can play to death and hear as the artist intended on me hearing. To me it's a no-brainer.
    Craig's point about mixing begs a question about CBU (and indeed previous LPs recorded and mixed with digital/CD as the primary carrier)
    Is the vinyl version of CBU for example, a different mix or master specifically for the vinyl release and does it actually sound any different as a result...notwithstanding the additional background noise added by vinyl playback?
    It will be the same mix for both vinyl and CD CBU. The only difference, if there is any, will depend on how much bottom end the cutting engineer has 'rolled off' to accomodate in the grooves. The fact that there's only approx 15 mins per side means the bottom end should be ok
    TBH I never wanted cd's. They were forced on people AFAIC.

    That said I started buying them - eventually - but I've never felt the same love for them as I did for vinyl. That said I understand the frustrations re clicks, etc. With the odd exception I've not gone back to buying vinyl LP's, but I do find I'm buying more vinyl 7" singles than I have for years. That's partly down to my love of that format (nostalgia playing a part admittedly), but also that a lot of things I'm liking at the moment just happen to be released in that format, sometimes with free download.

    Shuffle is great when you're mowing the lawn!