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    Waited for years to see Wire, finally they came to our neck of the woods.
    Great new songs, some good old ones too.
    Problem was that Wire just wanted to punt the new album, fair enough, they have to.
    But why did they not play old favourites such as 'I am the fly' and 'Ex Lion Tamer' etc.
    May be a bit boring for Wire doing this, but that is what the paying public want and cried out for.
    I for one would not go and see Wire again, not until the realise that the people paying good money to go see them want some return for their money. Do Wire not realise that we are the people who have supported them and kept them going with our purchases and shows? Would any other top act would not play their highest ever chart successes?
    No way, so why should Wire think they are above their fans.
    As in the words of Lydon.... 'Ever got the feeling youv'e been cheated?'
    Yup, too right.
    Understand what Wire are! They are not, never have been &, hopefully, never will be a 'greatest hits' band! If you're old enough to remember, they used to elicit a similar response to yours by playing the yet-to-be-released lp, rather than tracks from teh current release. They forever change & challenge - themselves and their audience - & that's why many of us go to see them - and for their cracking music as well.

    I'm not a great fan of their last 2 lp's, but i still go to see them because a) they translate better live than of disc & b) I don't know what they're gonna play! & rather than come away disappointed that they didn't play this or that, but excited & thankful that they surprised me by playing that & the other!

    Embrace them for what they are, ever changing & challenging, dedicated un-followers of fashion, and you'll enjoy them more.
    "I for one would not go and see Wire again, not until the realise that the people paying good money to go see them want some return for their money"

    You got to see the band play, they played "Great new songs, some good old ones too", yet you'll never go again because they didn't play your favourite oldie? Interesting logic. To your question "Would any other top act would not play their highest ever chart successes?" the answer is YES. There are plenty of bands that no longer wish to play (or only seldomly play) their old material. It's called progress. I completely fail to see how that can be a problem.
    "'Ever got the feeling youv'e been cheated?'"
    Yes, but never at a Wire gig.

    Hang on, is this a wind up. Not April 1st is it?
    I dunno with this damn band. Trudge up to Cafe Oto on a rainy Saturday night in March - and all Wire did was a quarter of an hour version of "Drill" with Teeth of the Sea.

    I can't say I liked it - that's cos I bleedin' loved it.
    I also wish to see the songs from Pink Flag, from 154 and from Send, but I would like to have seen it at the time. It was my fault that I didn't by being too young or too disorganised. It is better that bands move on, and we are at least blessed that Wire select a few songs from their catalogue. Here, I wish they would rotate a bit more, but this is a minor quibble.
    Interesting that Mark feels "cheated"; a personal view, so I am not saying he is wrong. However, I went to see the Buzzcocks last year, and it was a greatest hits set with the guitarist pretending it was 1979 and he was still a star, and the vocalist looked embarrassed. I got what I expected, but still felt as though something fundamental was missing. With Wire at Manchester and Leicester, I felt that I got more.
    "Would any other top act would not play their highest ever chart successes?"

    In the UK, Wire had precisely two tracks that ever charted in the singles top-100: Outdoor Miner and Eardrum Buzz. That's it. In the US, In Vivo and Eardrum Buzz made the Modern Rock chart.

    "May be a bit boring for Wire doing this, but that is what the paying public want and cried out for."

    As Colin recently said: "There is also the funny assumption that certain songs are like 'hits'. You ask 20 Wire fans to list their top 20 Wire songs and you are going to get a different response out of every one."


    "It’s like those guys that come to gigs, especially in America. They come up to you after the show and they say 'I have been a Wire fan for blah blah blah and you didn’t play…' and here is the list of all of the songs that they really love and you didn’t play and in some ways that they didn’t get their money’s worth.

    "If that is the way that you see the world, then you actually don’t really understand what it is that we are doing. What we are trying to do is make the most interesting and exciting show that we can put together: The show that the band is genuinely enthusiastic to play. That is what we are trying to do because we know that that is going to be better than trying to do some sort of focus group list of what are the hits and we have to play those. We would just turn in to a karaoke band and be our own worst cover band."

    (My emphasis.)
    What's curious about the complaint is that in the Mute era the number of Harvest songs in a set llst was el zilcho. You can be confident now that there will be oldies played now, even occasionally surprised. I was in Toronto in 2011 to see them and was floored when they played Map Ref (I don't think they'd resurrected it anywhere else at that point). I have hopes that one day they'll dust off Practice Makes Perfect or Question of Degree (or, even better, Former Airline), but if the worst we get is Pink Flag, Drill, Spent, Boiling Boy etc etc, we're all still well ahead in value for the money.
    I agree with Craig's comments about us all wanting different tracks, but just to contradict myself, Dr. Medulla chooses his older tracks wisely. I would love Question of Degree and Practice Makes Perfect. Former Airline is a radical proposal, but Our Swimmer would fit in nicely today...
    Still, the great news is that they are still airing new tracks.
    One thought, Colin hinted at a 40th anniversary event. Maybe Mark's wish will come true.
    "But why did they not play old favourites such as 'I am the fly' and 'Ex Lion Tamer' etc."

    No I want to hear "Illuminated" and "Song One", no I want to hear "A Craftsman's Touch" and "Strange" no I've changed my mind and I want to hear "Art of Stopping" and "Torch It". You can, and shouldn't expect Wire to pitch up and play the EMI albums in order from start to finish because that's not what Wire are. I saw Wire play with 200/250 people, if you asked for a list of 3 or 4 songs you'd like to hear you'd end up with a list of 40 or 50 tracks and a band who were stuck in their past.

    Like it or not Wire are a full functioning band not a greatest hits or nostalgia act, this is a tone set right back in '84. On the bootleg from one of the first gigs back, from the Oxford Art Gallery if memory serves, at the end of the set, which features only "beat combo" songs, Colin says to the crowd asking for 12XU etc. "sorry, we don't know any more songs" before launching into the second run through "Ambition" that night.

    'Ever got the feeling you've been cheated?' - I don't believe you were cheated, it was your expectation that was wrong. The past has past, this is the now, let's hear what they are doing now.
    I was somewhat amused at the show in Detroit earlier this year when a young gentleman in the audience had to be asked to leave the venue. He was disrupting the show by loudly yelling out the standard PF era requests that a lot of us never expected in the first place. It was a gross and distorted display of two-year old behavior possibly spurred on by alcohol. Graham also had a few choice comments in his direction. I don't quite understand the entitlement mindset. Yes we are paying a price to attend, but I expect only that the band will play well. There was a time between 1990 and 2000 that I never thought I'd see Wire play again, ever. The day Wire plays to the crowd is the day they should all join Bruce in semi-retirement.
    Bristol gig excellent. Great set. Robert had the hump at the start, not a happy bunny with his kit/sound. Anyways things got sorted. Worth going to the gig for RG's drumming. The drumming is so clean and precise. Lyrically the band are always quirky, musically live, erratic not necessarily well practiced at gigs ive attended over the years. Now they are well toured/tuned with additional/new member input. But, RG's drumming is always and always and always worth the ticket.

    "Bristol gig excellent"

    Agreed, I really enjoyed the show, and a lively audience, especially the guy in the RBT t-shirt at the back.

    "Robert had the hump at the start"

    There was no kick drum for 23 Years Too Late, soon resolved, spoke to him later, he'd enjoyed himself.

    Wire are on fine form at the moment, well worth seeing whatever they play :)
    I want them to play my personal top hit "Catapult 30" !
    "Problem was that Wire just wanted to punt the new album, fair enough, they have to."

    ...but this and RBT are pretty bloody decent aren't they?
    I reckon they have the mix between old and new just about right.

    (Mind you, the night they omit 'Drill' is the one where I'll 'scweam and scweam and scweam').
    The original post is like one of those facebook vague messages punting for a reaction..... "Feeling sad"
    "chart successes"... ever get the feeling you've been cheated.
    "Yes we are paying a price to attend, but I expect only that the band will play well."

    I'd push this in a slightly different direction: I'd sooner see Wire enthusiastic about its latest material, reworking old tracks, and trialling new pieces. So much better than trudging through the back catalogue. That Wire's introducing entirely new pieces during this tour is extremely promising regarding the future of the band.
    It's interesting to hear Mark's views (I suspect he may not become a regular here after the shoeing he got!) as what he says reflects the expectations of a certain type of gig goer that might come to a Wire show who are perhaps less familiar with Wire's M.O and leave disappointed that they didn't get their nostalgia fix, or get to hear their favourite Wire Mk1 songs played live.

    Puts me in mind of this comedy sketch:

    In this day and age though, when information is so freely available it's quite easy if you're considering seeing a band, to research Reviews, You Tube clips and set-lists to find out what you might be in for before you part with your cash.

    For every gig-goer expecting 12XU, there are several more (and I've seen this a lot at recent gigs) who just get sucked into what Wire are doing now and are blown away by it and then hearing something like 'Map Ref' is just the icing on the cake for them.

    I suspect its partly a symptom of being a Wire fan that I lose patience with bands that just play the hits, or worse the dreaded 'Classic Album in full' sets. I'm a big fan of My Bloody Valentine for example but seeing them recently I was a bit dismayed they played just three new songs and otherwise the same set they were peddling several years ago. It was good, but I'd rather hear them reach for something new.

    It's a brave thing to do for any act with a history, extensive back catalogue including several 'classic albums'. I think it takes a lot of confidence in your new/recent material and it also means ultimately that Wire limit the number of people who will be prepared to come to their shows. They've stuck with this stance for so long they've reached a point where they can afford to perform exactly the type of set they'd like to do and ultimately if you're prepared to go along with it that's going to be a far more rewarding evening than hearing The Buzzcocks cranking out the hits again. I suspect an awful lot of bands envy Wire and their fanbase which eggs them on to do new, untested stuff, or pick more obscure album tracks and b sides instead of the obvious 'hits'.
    I regard myself as a 'very late to the party' Wire fan mid 1990's. partly due to my age (I'm 42 now). I got involved after the huge pre-internet Trouser Press album encyclopaedia publication peeked my interest, by the fact Wire would be name-checked by my then favourite Bill Nelson and in particular the front page Select (or Vox) magazine article on Wire's influence on Brit-Pop. I started first with Manscape (ahem), Ideal Copy, A Bell Is A Cup and the Wir album. I really enjoyed then all, they became firm favourites, but in 1998/99 I thought I was just filling in my own electronica collection. I was buying 'Oracle' and CN 'Bastard' at the time in the hope they would be as good. It would be a couple more years before I even got around to Pink Flag, Chairs Missing and 154.

    The excitement when Wire re-formed in 2000 and I went to the 'All In The Brochure' concert was palpable. Read and Burn 1 & 2 blew me away - it was everything I ever wanted in a band and the concerts supporting it (e.g. ICA, Garage) were so good - even then only a couple of hundred attended.

    What I've enjoyed about the band is the progression and being relentless in their standards 21st century: Send for me is the high water mark, Object 47 had it's moments on a couple of tracks, but the back 7 tracks of Red Barked Tree and the front 7 of Change Becomes Us rank I think with anything in the whole body of work. The guys can be proud.

    The only mystery to me is why the crowd figure for concerts is still in the hundreds outside of London and why the band themselves want to play outside London given they can get a couple of thousand at Scala, Heaven, Garage etc. I'm not from London by the way.
    I was disappointed with the attendance at Manchester, but purely because the performance deserved a larger audience. I have seen Wire more times than I can afford, but the Manchester gig was really special. Better not to question the rationale and thank Wire for what they can still achieve almost 40 years after their inception.
    I never saw the Send era performance; I was too busy sulking. What a mistake...
    I am really intrigued by Colin's hint about April 2017, and about the promise of an album in 2016. If there are only 200 people there, but I am one of them, I will be happy, but still frustrated at the taste of the populace.