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    Another band who are always looking for something new...Pere Ubu are back in the Uk next month with a different line up and a different set of quote David Thomas "if something works why do it again".
    Saw them last time round, which was only a few months ago. David Thomas is such an entertainer.
    Cannot believe the amount of Wine & beer he devoured on stage! Gonna have to miss next months gigs though.
    Me too. He was "tired and emotional" and in the words of Eleanor Friedberger exited stage left during the encore.
    I will happily see 'em again, though at the moment I am going nowhere owing to a broken foot.
    Good to see Ubu mentioned again. Three bands that have stayed with me (or vice versa) since the late 70s: Wire (of course), The Monochrome Set and Pere Ubu - all still going strong and producing superb sounds. I agree that David Thomas is 'such an entertainer' - apart from the astonishing voice, his banter is so witty...unless he's in a bad mood. Ever the artist?
    I saw Pere Ubu in 2005 and DT was mostly sitting down, sweating profusley and swigging from a hip flask. The band were great but there it was also a rather grim experience as he seemed to struggle through the gig.

    I saw them again earlier this year and it was a completely different, joyous experience. He was enthuisiatically chewing down the Merlot but mostly stayed upright, seemed in jovial mood and had some excellent stories and banter to match the excellent music (new and old). He had a bit of a strop toward the end of the set but was soon happily signing stuff for fans in the foyer afterwards.

    Compare to that other "famously erratic" artiste Mark E Smith who I've currently retired from seeing because I tired of paying £20 to hear him come and do the same tired old routine of turning the bass or guitar amps up and down (funny once, beyond annoying after the 7th or 8th time), tangling microphone leads in knots, removing the mic from the kick drum and then putting on his jacket after a few songs and literally phoning his vocals in from backstage, or worse letting other members of the band or his manager handle vocal duties while he goes off and does whatever MES does when he doesn't feel like singing. MES has become predictably "unpredictable", if that's possible.
    I agree with R Swimmer. or those of us used to the eccentricities of Marc Smith, we can be overly tolerant. For our friends who we have subjected to the spectacle, they are less amused. I have also retired from seeing The Fall, and as each album sounds so much like the last one, from buying their records as well. Ubu were very good this year, except the encore where Thomas departed the stage a la Smith. Wire at Manchester though remains the highlight: a balance of current, new and old, delivered with energy and belief. The Riley session was majestic as well. A band on the crest rather than a steep decline like the Fall.
    This clip of The Fall filmed earlier this year pretty much sums up his current 'form'. They're playing Blindness, and very good it sounds too but MES is nowehere to be seen. Mic is tossed into crowd for someone in the audience to 'sing'. Roadie retrieves mic. No Mark. Song continues and MES does some half-hearted gurgling from somewhere off stage.

    Greenway is a truly great Fall guitarist but I never liked watching Dave Spurr play bass "in the pocket". I see he's currently being replaced by the excellent Rob Barbato so maybe I'll go and see them next time around. (NOOOO!!!! MUST STOP SEEING THE FALL!!)
    Saw Pere Ubu last Friday (8th November) in Edinburgh. It was in The Liquid Rooms Annexe. A tiny venue with around 120 people (if that). So it made for a wonderfully intimate atmosphere. The gig was incredible! Dave was sitting down but in good form. I'm sure he had a soft drink in his hand. But who knows what was in the can! The band were brilliant. I can't do justice in trying to describe how good they were. I last saw them about 32(?) years ago supporting the Gang of Four on the Solid Gold tour and didn't remember much about them. So did not know what to expect. If you have the chance to see them. DO NOT HESITATE!! (I see they are playing Cardiff on Sunday 17th November)
    That Cardiff date appears to be cancelled unfortunately.
    They played Dublin last night. Likewise Thomas seated throughout and in good form, with a lot of good natured between song patter. He's lost a lot of weight. Sipping Coke and Tipperary water. Bassist absent. A good set of mostly new material, a lot of it quite sparse, with minimal percussion rather than full-on kit. Great drummer though, when things really kicked off for Heart Of Darkness, which really rocked, he threw himself into it with such passion and precision. Keith Moline's guitar playing is very effective, creates a strong atmosphere. It was only on flicking through the book on the making of the last album that I read that Gagarin, a.k.a. Dids, a.k.a. Graham Dowdall, the keyboards/electronics player was ex-Ludus. He looks like he could be related to Ted Milton. Later on they played an intriguing and very downtempo version of Modern Dance, which you'd be hard pressed to recognise if you weren't paying attention to the lyrics. I would like to have heard a few more old numbers, like Chinese Radiation/Life Stinks, which they played at ATP recently. Still, highly entertaining though.
    Graham Dowdall is also part of the duo Roshi featuring Pars Radio - teaming up with Roshi Nasehi. I see them a fair bit playing gigs in London - worth seeking out as they say. Graham was also Nico's drummer in the 80's - he played over 200 gigs with her.
    Did he play with Eric Random and the Bedlamites at one stage ?
    He certainly did. Most of the Bedlamites became The Faction.
    He also played with Zor Gabor, the band formed by one-time Banshee John McKay.

    I saw one of the Pere Ubu dates on this tour and enjoyed very much, my first time seeing them live. Good call about the drummer, he contributed what was needed and when very effectively - not to mention his dual role manning the merchandise table!