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    O47 is crap from beginning to end. Agreed All Fours is about the best of a bad bunch, but I could still go my whole life and not have to listen to the horribly trite One of Us or forgettable fluff like Mekon Headman again.

    I know there's precisely zero chance of it happening, but I'd love to hear Ahead live. From what I can gather from a quick scan of the boots, it appeared to be wildly different live from the recorded version.
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    Ahead live doesn't appear _that_ much different to me, but it clearly highlights how the production affected the 1980s records. When live, Ahead is all clattering guitars and bile; in the studio, it's a very different beast, more along the lines of electronic music of the day. I'd certainly love to hear a thrashy and energetic modern take on what was the song that got me into Wire in the first place. Similarly, Queen of Ur was fantastic live, a relentless grind infused with a kind of power very different from the more clockwork (but equally good album track).

    Still the 'never gonna happen' I keep holding out for is So And Slow It Grows, perhaps akin to the single remix, but with the addition of Rob's drumming. I've always loved that track and to hear it with Rob could be magical.
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    > Still the 'never gonna happen' I keep holding out for is So And Slow It Grows, perhaps akin to the single remix, but with the addition of Rob's drumming. I've always loved that track and to hear it with Rob could be magical.

    I'm curious, why do you think it'll never happen? Is Rob opposed to doing Wir material? Have Colin and Graham stated that that's a part of their past that's off-limits? Along the same lines, is it understood that songs from Manscape won't ever be revisited?
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    From memory, I think Rob found the whole Wir thing particularly painful, so the chances of him agreeing to play anything off The First Letter are pretty slim, I'd have thought.

    More to the point, Wire won't play anything that Colin isn't well disposed towards, and given how vocal he's been about hating The Ideal Copy and his lack of enthusiasm for Manscape / Wir, I suspect we'll be waiting a while...
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    I think history has shown that Wire will perform what Wire want to perform. I can't see the point of wish lists. It's a waste of time.
    That's one of the reasons I love what they do. They are wilfully stubborn as to what they want to do, always have been, always will be.
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    "I can't see the point of wish lists."

    Well, there's nothing wrong with wondering "What if?" Hell, I often thought from whenever I first picked up D&E how great it would be if some of the tracks were done properly, in the studio. Lo and behold…
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    I wonder lots of things too (all the time, about lots of things) but never about music or musicians.
    A great story Bill Cosby told about Miles Davis when he resurfaced in the 80's. He and Milt Jackson went to see MD. Milt was harping on about what they might see/hear. 'Oh wouldn't it be great if he played My Funny Valentine, or wouldn't it be great if he played...'
    Bill finally had to stop him and say, 'Milt. Miles will play what Miles will play...and it'll be great whatever it is.'
    I think the same applies with Wire.
    Have I just placed Wire up there with MD?!!
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    No Kevin, you put yourself up there with Bill Cosby! : )
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    Ooo not my intention and I am certainly not worthy
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    > More to the point, Wire won't play anything that Colin isn't well disposed towards, and given how vocal he's been about hating The Ideal Copy and his lack of enthusiasm for Manscape / Wir, I suspect we'll be waiting a while...

    I know he disliked the recording sessions for those albums (to put it mildly) but I'm a bit surprised that time hasn't mellowed feelings towards what emerged. Especially given revisiting that material via the Legal Boot program, which has demonstrated what a different (and mostly superior) beast those songs were when played live. Alas and oh well …
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    Colin was genuinely surprised at how good Wire sounded live during the 80's. Whether that will transfer into actually wanting to play some of those songs remains to be seen.
    I suspect that as more new material comes into play then older material will get pushed out
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    As what seems to have happened to "Pink Flag". Even if they had played the full set list at The Lexington "Pink Flag" would not have been included.
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    Perhaps Pink Flag's now being 'saved' for orchestras?
    • CommentAuthorjw says...
    • (CommentTimeJan 29th 2014)
     
    Kevin's comments are spot on.

    I was reminded of a quote that Z'EV chose for the "One Foot in the Grave" project we did in 1991, again by Miles Davis -

    "The way you change music is by finding new ways to play"

    At the Lexington I was in a great situation to see how much Matt has moved things on with how he inherits the guitar sound... To be honest I'd love to hear 'Footsie Footsie' and 'A Bargain...'

    Wir material is very underrated.
    J.