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  1.  
    ......according to Stereogum.

    I would pretty much go along with that order, save for higher placings for Document & Eyewitness & Wire, with The Ideal Copy dropping down a few places


    http://www.stereogum.com/1792251/wire-albums-from-worst-to-best/franchises/counting-down/
  2.  
    Manscape far too low for my liking!!!
  3.  
    To be honest I thought it was a "triumph" of familiarity over content and annoyed the hell out of me. He probably though he was being "radical" not putting "Pink Flag" at #1 - The relative low placing of the last 3 albums flys in the face of the critical acclaim they have received. I just think the guy's a fuckwit....

    However I think its also true that as far as press is concerned the Brits "get" the last few albums more than the Americans. No disrespect to our North American friends but I think it's much better that way round. Pink Flag was panned upon release in the USA and CM & 154 ignored... There is an inherent conservatism in the North American music media which the Brits seem less susceptible to.
  4.  
    I've only got as far as the first entry, which erroneously states The Drill was a single and disses my favourite track on that album, the SMASH YOUR HEAD IN Jumping Mint. Bah.

    EDIT: Good grief—I just checked the sort order. Wire and Red Barked Tree *below* IBTABA?

    EDIT 2: "It's not that 'Blogging' is a bad song -- it's just a bit silly, which is a well that Wire are increasingly willing to dip into". Wire, bereft of humour in lyrics until 2015. Unless you actually know any of the lyrics from before 2015. Good grief.
  5.  
    Exactly Craig!
  6.  
    I'm good with the top 5, but not their order. After that, tho, the ranking gets really wonky.
  7.  
    Colin summed it up in four words "the guy's a fuckwit".
    looks like he just took the CD cases, threw them in the air and picked them up one at a time and lo! I have a chart!

    Let's not give it any more oxygen
  8.  
    It's only a chart of his own volition which he's put up online - no more important than that. The new album definitely needs time to settle in - its a grower for sure.

    Here's an idea I think has been mooted before - what if the Manscape/Wir material was "realigned" in the same way as the D&E material was for "Change Becomes Us"? Just a thought.
  9.  
    The one I always wanted to hear redone was So And Slow It Grows, with Rob drumming and a current-gen Wire sound. However, the notion of redoing entire albums seems unlikely (versus CBU, which in some cases had fairly straight versions of old songs, but often took fragments and ran with them). Still, in a universe where Wire has infinite time and the audience size where oddball side projects would make a mint, I'd happily take a new studio live-ish take on Bell is a Cup…
  10.  
    Have any members of Wire publicly listed their albums in order of preference/artistic endeavor? I certainly can't recall, but it would make for interesting reading.

    Mojo magazine once did a "How to buy" Wire article. The bottom line is it's all subjective, I suppose... but, one thing's for sure, the new album is in the running for a top 5 place!
  11.  
    I've no idea whether Wire members have listed the albums in that fashion, but this website's Us section has each band member picking a few selected works from the back catalogue. (This was done a while ago, so choices may have changed, but no-one's supplied any new ones!)
  12.  
    I'm sure they mentioned the albums they have a high regard for in Wilson Neate's biography of the band.

    But it may be time to force the issue and get them all to rate their own work. We can argue about their opinions later!
  13.  
    I think their individual opinions on the various albums become relatively clear reading Read & Burn, no ?
  14.  
    Maybe a bit early to say, but currently the new album is in my personal top 5 or so.
    I don't think IBTABA should be so high in the list, although i do enjoy it (but then there's hardly any Wire album i do not enjoy).
  15.  
    I wouldn't be able to make a sequenced countdown of Wire albums like that. My tendency is to group albums into tiers of how much I like them - in most cases I have a really hard time concluding that "this album's better than that".

    As for the article - anyone who actually spends a paragraph or four on The First Letter but fails to mention the perfect Ticking Mouth doesn't get a second glance from me.
  16.  
    Related to 7jlong's comment about grouping albums, would anyone disagree that the run of RBT, CBU, and W is the best three-album run since the Harvest lp's? I have no problem in admitting that I was apprehensive about what would happen to the group after BG left, and O47 did little to assuage me. But since then, god damn, they've consistently demonstrated a capacity to make compelling music. To speak about recent Wire and compare them to mk. 1 is quite remarkable, yet doesn't seem outlandish in the slightest to me.
  17.  
    I agree with the good Dr. The most recent three albums are the best sequence of releases since the late-70s trilogy.

    Send was a great record – so throw in 60% of Object 47 plus the Read and Burn trilogy and you've got a fine post-millennium body of work that wipes the floor with most – if not all – bands.

    Are we in on the best kept secret in music or what?!

    I feel honoured ....
  18.  
    I rate the recent albums over the 80s ones, and that's partly because I have more of a connection with them because I've avidly followed Wire activity since the RFH 2000, and 'I was there'. I've never been one for ordering things into lists, everything in the back catalogue is interesting - everything is worth listening to even if it's not something you'd play on repeat..it's all part of the story and it's much more rewarding to listen to what Wire do now if you can place it in the context of what they did before.
  19.  
    I like lists, it is a weakness of mine.
    For me, there are the essential albums such as Chairs Missing, Send Ultimate, Change Becomes Us and 154, and the very good albums like Red Barked Trees, Pink Flag and Ideal Copy, and the ones that I rarely play like Manscape, Drill, Object 47 and IBTABA.
    Then there are albums which have some fabulous tracks, but I tend not to play the entire album.
    There are joys in all periods of Wire, and frustrations...
    Too early to say where the new album fits for me, but after several listens it is heading for the very good box. I have a couple of quibbles, I am not fond of Sleep-Wlalking for example, but overall for a band in their fourth decade they are still forging ahead and making difficult choices. Sorry Colin, would like to see The band work with a producer again. Hope this does not put me in the fuckwit category.
  20.  
    Stevenhope,
    I agree with the comment about 21st century Wire. Though I am not find of Object 47, combined with Read & Burn 4 there is a fabulous album there. One of the highlights of the live set yesterday was Mekong Headman, incidentally.